Thursday, February 17, 2005

Don't Squeeze the Juice

Star Trek fans have taken out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times in an attempt to persuade TV executives not to scrap Star Trek: Enterprise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/.stm

The trouble is that parents who are quick to limit a child's soft drink consumption often overlook or even encourage juice indulgence thanks to the beverage's good-for-you image. But that image can be overstated. Though healthy in moderation, juice essentially is water and sugar. In fact, a 12-ounce bottle of grape soda has 159 calories. The same amount of unsweetened grape juice packs 228 calories.
http://story.news.yahoo...abuse

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/...9.stm

11 Comments:

Blogger Michael and Natalie said...

"Soda in a sippy cup? Most parents wouldn't dream of it. But researchers say that when a baby's bottle or cup is filled with juice — even the 100 percent, all-natural, no-sugar-added stuff — parents might as well be pouring Pepsi."

no, ITS NOT THE SAME THING. i know the article goes on and on (and on and on and on) about how terrible juice is because its loaded with calories, but their are excellent vitamins in juice they re not even taking into consideration. plus, i dont know when it ever occured to ANYONE that fat babies -and by babies i mean children under the age of one - were a bad thing. i guess some people could say if a baby is fat it will make a fat adult, but that is just simply not true. if your baby is in the 99 percentile for size, thats not bad. in fact, fat babys are usually healthy, not to mention the fact that in the first crucial years when the baby's brain is being formed, its being formed out of fat. i suppose you could try to limit your babies intake of calories BY NOT GIVING THEM juice, but theyre babies, i mean, babies, generally, the more they eat the better, within reason. they dont have an immune system people! anyway, about children over the age of 1...i can see some sense in the article. it should be common sense not to give you kid an excess of calories IF they are "pudgy" but i seem to recall that many young children, prepubescent ones, have extremely high metabolisms. the ones that are overweight, let them cut their calories all around with juice, potatoes, etc. but the normal kids, like me, like bryan (still might i add with a high metabolisim) are fine with juice. it is healthier then soda, despite the sugar content becaus e juice doesnt have carbonation and DOES provide nutrients. i dont know it just makes me so mad that they would tell people to stop giving their kids juice. if you kid is fat, then cut ALL of what he eats-i hardley believe juice is to blame, and if it is why a kid is fat, then cutting it out should solve the problem

Thu Feb 17, 10:58:00 AM GMT-7  
Blogger Aaron said...

Juice also rots yer teeth. I'd never give it to my kid. All they need is milk and water. Any nutrients you think juice is giving kids, they can get from food, without the harmful sugar and calories. I've seriously seen kids with rotten teeth cause they drink apple juice tto much....granted they were white trash and their parents never brushed their teeth...but if it was water they were drinking with some smashed peas to get their vitamins and nutrients, the teeth wouldn't have been rotten, regardless of the lack of teethbrushing, and they would be healthy. Sorry, I'd take some professional nutrionists opinion over a former health food store employee...no offense intended.

Thu Feb 17, 11:37:00 AM GMT-7  
Blogger bryan said...

oh man... i havent LOLed at something online like i did to these comments in a long time :)

Thu Feb 17, 07:42:00 PM GMT-7  
Blogger Michael and Natalie said...

Basically all kids need are water and vitamins and some sort of calorie bar to keep them going, so based on your logic, all youll give your children is water a granola bar and a toothbrush. Aaron, kids get rotten teeth not because they drink juice, but because they don’t brush their teeth...there are plenty of nutritionists that think juice is good, and
By the way, calories aren’t harmful…

Thu Feb 17, 09:09:00 PM GMT-7  
Blogger bryan said...

although i dont find myself anywhere near as passionate on the subject of children's juice intake as natalie or aaron, i do think the quote that natalie gave from the article was a good one.

"...parents might as well be pouring Pepsi." pretty sensationalistic. i mean, although it contains sugar/calories juice isnt going to give a kidney stone and it doesnt contain caffeine or other additives that may "cause occasional allergic reactions." heres a link from the anti-soda crowd
http://www.cspinet.org/sodapop/liquid_candy.htm

and.. if i must say.... when i had a certain growth on my culo, the dr. told me to refrain from soda pop; there was no mention of juice however. but then again, im not a baby. and for those that are interested; believe it or not, i was so big as a baby in my mothers womb the doctors initially thought i was twins. i was a milk/water baby though....

perhaps more interesting... heres a link that gives a map on the "The Great Pop vs. Soda Controversy"
http://www.popvssoda.com/

Thu Feb 17, 09:28:00 PM GMT-7  
Blogger Aaron said...

Firstly: Even though this is over Juice, I've wanted to get involved in some great debate on this blog for sometime. I purposely skipped over any discussion about immigration and economics or what not because I didn't really have anything new to bring to the table. But since Natalie is Pro-Juice and I am Anti-Juice...I think I will have a good time with this one. I also am not backing down from my position of abhorring the juice intake of babies.

Secondly: I grew up saying pop. When I reached adolescence, in an attempt to sound like a hip metropolitan east/west coaster I trained myself to say soda. I still say soda mostly, but in a symbolic gesture to return to my roots of a Red State American, and show Utah pride, I am going to begin saying pop again. (LOL @ how North Carolinians say Coke or DRINK [I've known a few from NC in my day, and they indeed said drink.])

Thirdly: Back to the juice. My logic was not that all they need is granola and a toothbrush, it was that they should be getting their vitamins and nutrients from their food, they don't need juice for that. And I am sure there are some juices that are healthier than others, but when I think of kids with juice, I think of that Treetop Apple juice, which is nothing but sugar. Kids don't really like prune juice and carrot juice and other good juices....they like sweet as all get out apple juice. If you smash up a fruit or vegetable and give them juice that way, I'm all for it, I'm sure that Pedialite juice can't be too bad either. But everyday fruit juices that you and I drink, I'd prefer not to give to my babies. I've thought like that years before I read this article. And I don't think calories are a bad thing, I just think that high caloric intake from a cup of juice can be a potential bad thing. That's pretty much what the entire article was about. Anyway, either way, whatever way, I don't think giving your kid juice or not giving your kid juice is that big of deal. I just won't be giving my babies any. They'll live off a nutritious diet of granola and Colgate.

Fourthly: That lame joke I tried to make about "the former health food store employee" may have been inappropriate. I value Natalie's opinion on juice. I still think about how tasty this juice was that she showed me at the Good Earth when we were there getting some earwax candles.

Thu Feb 17, 11:52:00 PM GMT-7  
Blogger Matt said...

This has been a great debate.

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Fri Feb 18, 12:41:00 AM GMT-7  
Blogger bryan said...

i think that natalie and aaron probably agree a lot more on this issue than is being let on.. but ill leave that to them to discuss...
continuing somewhat on that subject though... Texas is definitely a "coke" state. i always kind of resented that considering im a Dr. Pepper lover and the fact that Dr. Pepper is from Texas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Pepper

my dad being from wisconsin and my mom from mexico i did not grow up hearing "coke" used for everything in the house. i think that "soda", and in more formal settings, "soda pop" was used. but just about all of my friends and those with whom i grew up did say "coke" no matter what type of soda it was. but "pop"... just saying that... it reminds of some world's fair from the 30s.... "hear ye, hear ye... come try our new invention, POP!" yeah... or maybe some 70yr old women.. anyways....

all i can say is three cheers for matthew derby :D and in honor of his willingness to recognize the truth and do something about it i will complete one of his offers and offer my own shameless plug/link
http://www.freephotoiPods.com/?r=14754063

Fri Feb 18, 07:25:00 AM GMT-7  
Blogger Aaron said...

Say, about those free offer thingies. Have any of you found an offer that you prefer filling out over another? AKA, less hassle than the rest? Let me know, and maybe I'll hit y'all up. And hit me up while you are at it:

http://www.freephotoipods.com/default.aspx?r=14792105

Fri Feb 18, 09:47:00 AM GMT-7  
Blogger Matt said...

Bryan and Aaron, I did an offer for both of you. A little reciprocation would be appreciated.

Fri Feb 18, 10:28:00 AM GMT-7  
Blogger Michael and Natalie said...

can i get in on this shameless offer thing/ link thing too??

http://www.freephotoiPods.com/?r=14761979

ill complete one for aaron and matt, since i already did one for bryan
bryan-did you ever do one for me?

Fri Feb 18, 11:11:00 AM GMT-7  

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